Visiting Within Rigen

[michael l. (1013913)]

I have noticed when visiting different ARTCC in the US on vatsim there are some that require you to take the tests that people that join as their home ARTCC but others don't require you to. I was wondering will something like that be up to who is running that ARTCC/FIR or will be a network standard?

[michael l. (1013913)]

16 minutes ago, ml0130 said:

I have noticed when visiting different ARTCC in the US on vatsim there are some that require you to take the tests that people that join as their home ARTCC but others don't require you to. I was wondering will something like that be up to who is running that ARTCC/FIR or will be a network standard? 

 

To give more context why I bring this up is because on vatsim I visit Jaxsinvil Atlanta and LA. For some reason, JAX and ATL don't require you to test but LA does. Now I would get you have to test if say you are a home controller in the US and visiting in the EU. But not inter regain since more of the phraseology and procedures would be the same. I would think just having the visitor (US home) go through a training with that sectors mentors to get them antiquated with the airspace and the special phraseology use in that sector. For example, the biggest difference that I see between ZNY and ZLA is that ZLA has tec routes and the phraseology is different when you use them. 

[Noah B.]

40 minutes ago, ml0130 said:

To give more context why I bring this up is because on vatsim I visit Jaxsinvil Atlanta and LA. For some reason, JAX and ATL don't require you to test but LA does. Now I would get you have to test if say you are a home controller in the US and visiting in the EU. But not inter regain since more of the phraseology and procedures would be the same. I would think just having the visitor (US home) go through a training with that sectors mentors to get them antiquated with the airspace and the special phraseology use in that sector. For example, the biggest difference that I see between ZNY and ZLA is that ZLA has tec routes and the phraseology is different when you use them. 

As a former ZLA controller myself I'm curious. Do you feel that the testing on local procedures helped prepare you to control LA? I imagine the test is just there to make sure you actually read the local procedures prior to a session with a mentor so that you don't waste their time.

[michael l. (1013913)]

@Noah Berks

On 9/7/2018 at 11:14 PM, Noah Berks said:

As a former ZLA controller myself I'm curious. Do you feel that the testing on local procedures helped prepare you to control LA? I imagine the test is just there to make sure you actually read the local procedures prior to a session with a mentor so that you don't waste their time.

That I see I'm pointing out that there's no real conformity when it comes to visiting. So I wanted to know if poscon would implement a standard or if they will leave not up to the DATM ATM and TA.

[Andrew Heath]

This will be controlled at a network level.

I will be the first to admit that local policies on VATSIM are a bit out of control, but in my opinion they have developed this way because there is no standardization at the higher levels.

[veselko (1018510)]

I think that you should know local SOPs, but testing/training is just wasting time.

You could maybe just do test like questions with multiple answers that are auto validated.

[Andrew (1017363)]

I feel that the controllers of the area, will all be tested on the same network administered standardized training.

As the network progresses, the local ARTCC's/FIR's will have control on "in area" training.

Such as exams and check outs.

[veselko (1018510)]

11 hours ago, Andrew said:

I feel that the controllers of the area, will all be tested on the same network administered standardized training.

As the network progresses, the local ARTCC's/FIR's will have control on "in area" training.

Such as exams and check outs.

That's good.